Commit 6ba24847 authored by Deimos's avatar Deimos

Mechanics: Update for comment labels

parent 7d957feb
Title: Mechanics
Slug: mechanics
Modified: September 7, 2018
Modified: October 1, 2018
Summary: Description of the basic mechanics on Tildes, and some reasoning behind them
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Tildes has nested comments, which form a tree structure. Similar to topics, other users' comments can be voted on, and there is no downvote ([see below for more about this](#lack-of-downvoting)).
### Comment tags
### Comment labels
**Note**: This feature is currently being experimented with, and is available to users whose account is at least a week old.
Comments can also be tagged, which is separate from voting (you can vote on a comment, or tag it, or do both). Tags help to categorize comments and can have other effects. Currently, there are 5 options for tagging comments:
Comments can also be labeled, which is separate from voting (you can vote on a comment, or label it, or do both). Labels help to categorize comments and can have effects such as changing how the comments are sorted. Currently, there are 5 options for labeling comments:
* Joke - comments posted for humor purposes (actual jokes, puns, references, etc.)
* Noise - comments that don't add anything to the discussion ("lol", "I agree", responses to the headline like "finally!", etc.)
* Offtopic - comments talking about something unrelated to the actual topic
* Troll - comments posted for the purpose of getting a reaction
* Flame - comments attacking another user
* Exemplary - Comments that are exceptional and deserve special recognition. Users can only label a comment as Exemplary once every 8 hours, and it requires entering a message/reason that will be displayed anonymously to the comment's author.
* Offtopic - Comments talking about something unrelated to the actual topic
* Joke - Comments posted for humor purposes (actual jokes, puns, references, etc.)
* Noise - Comments that don't add anything to the discussion. This includes obvious non-contributing comments like "lol", "I agree", and responses to the headline like "finally!", but can also cover anything where the comment's presence doesn't add anything meaningful.
* Malice - Comments posted in bad faith. Comments should be labeled as Malice if they're trolling, personal attacks, or other types of behavior that have no place in high-quality discussions. Using this label requires entering a reason, and serves as a method of reporting the comment.
Comment tags serve multiple purposes. Tildes has no downvoting, but some tags can effectively act as "downvote with a reason". Tags will also make it possible to support various methods of filtering comment threads, such as both "show this thread without jokes" and "show *only* jokes from this thread".
Comment labels serve multiple purposes overall. Tildes has no downvoting, but some labels can effectively act as "downvote with a reason". Labels will also make it possible to support various methods of filtering comment threads, such as both "show this thread without jokes" and "show *only* jokes from this thread".
This concept is probably familiar to anyone who's used Slashdot. Those people have probably also noticed that the positive options from Slashdot are missing, specifically "interesting" and "insightful". In my opinion, tags like that don't add anything meaningful—I'd never open a comment thread and think, "I'd like to read the interesting comments, but not the insightful ones."
Overall, voting on a comment should mean something like "this is a good comment and I think other people should read it", while tagging a comment adds more information. With the combination of both, you can express things like "this is a good comment, even though it's off-topic", and "this is a joke, but it's a good one".
Overall, voting on a comment should mean something like "this is a good comment and I think other people should read it", while labeling a comment adds more information. With the combination of both, you can express things like "this is a good comment, even though it's off-topic", and "this is a joke, but it's a good one".
## Lack of downvoting
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The ideal usage of a downvote is a generic way to express "this doesn't contribute", but in practice they tend to be used more as "I disagree" or "I don't like this". High-quality posts will often get downvoted because other users disagree with the opinion, and in taste-based communities (such as ones related to music), entire categories of valid posts might be unviable because they'll just be downvoted by users with different taste.
On Tildes, I want to find ways to accomplish those valuable uses through other mechanics. For example, the [comment tags](#comment-tags) described above can be used to communicate *why* you don't think a comment contributes. [Topic tags](#topic-tags) will allow users to simply filter out certain types of posts that they're not interested in, instead of downvoting them and hurting them for other users that *do* want to see them.
On Tildes, I want to find ways to accomplish those valuable uses through other mechanics. For example, the [comment labels](#comment-labels) described above can be used to communicate *why* you don't think a comment contributes. [Topic tags](#topic-tags) will allow users to simply filter out certain types of posts that they're not interested in, instead of downvoting them and hurting them for other users that *do* want to see them.
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